Diana fountain
Diana fountain, my views
Diana fountain, have you seen it?
(technically its not even a fountain, its a water feature) it cost £3.6 million, now as far as fountains go
I have seen better
fountains costing far less money. In my opinion i think it should be
ripped out and a more suitable design chosen, why? look at it this way.
Its a fountain in a public park, but as you can see, it has no "walls", in
fact people are encouraged to get in it, my "problems" with this are, its
wet, yes the granite is not 100% smooth so affording some grip, but then
how about next year, or when it freezes, how long before some poor kid
slips and cuts their head open?
I wont mention the grass around the fountain, already it is looking
worn out, how long before it turns to mud? (see further on down)
Dogs are not allowed in the fountain (as shown in the notice), but
while i was there i counted 2 in it, but who am I to say anything?
(see further on down)
I know people will always get into fountains, but fountains that are
designed to be "played in" should be 100% flat and level, this one isn't.
In my opinion this fountain is dangerous and a waste of money.
Let me know what you think.
Update 23/7/04
As I predicted to date 3 people have had to go to hospital, the latest
"victim" being a child with a head wound
The fountain has been closed down while an investigation is carried
out.
It has not been without its problems, blocked pump, faulty equipment,
and "gummed up" by leaves, all this and it only opened on July 7
I say "RIP IT OUT", fountains are fun, but not for playing in*
Update 3/08/04
It has been decided they after the recent "incidents" the public will
be encouraged NOT to get in the fountain, it also may be made entrance by
ticket only.
Pardon me for saying so, but isn't that what i said in the first place?
Fountains are not for playing in (unless specially designed that
way, which this one wasn't)
Update 12/08/04
Apparently Princess Diana's fountain is still not open to the public,
but may be open next Monday (16th)
A leading architect (don't know who) has allegedly said that the
fountain will be permanently shut within 6 months.
I say don't bother opening it. have a proper fountain, which will be
for people to look at and admire, not to play in.
Update 20/08/04
The fountain has now opened (again) to the public, a few alterations
have been made (lines cut in the surface to afford better grip (yeah
right)
Also "wardens" will patrol the fountain to stop anyone from paddling
running (hands are allowed)
Thing is these "wardens" will cost £100K/ p.a. even Trafalgar square
fountains don't get that much attention.
I still say RIP THE FOUNTAIN OUT, build a proper fountain, not a water
feature
Update 23/08/04
When I first started this page i said "I wont mention the grass around the fountain, already it is looking
worn out, how long before it turns to mud?" Well, guess what, it is
now being looked into resurfacing the area around the fountain
because..................its turned into mud. allegedly a foreign visitor
slipped on the mud and had to be taken to hospital
Rip the fountain out and put in a proper fountain!
Update 8/11/04
all is quiet, does that mean the "fountain" has gone?
Update 12/11/04
Perhaps I tempted fate, I hear that the "wardens" go fishing in the
fountain, no not for fish, but leaves ,good idea to put the fountain there
then (NOT) also the fountain is "regularly shut down" for maintenance and
cleaning.
What did they expect, putting a fountain that is at ground level, near
trees. (I am still waiting for the tree roots to start to lift the
fountain, though that may be some years away)
I still say its not too late, rip it out and install a proper fountain
Update 10/1/05
It has been announced today that the fountain will now be shut until
1st May 2005, why, because they are going to change the turf and make it
easier for wheel chair access.
Anyone with a bit of savvy would realise that you don't put GRASS
around a fountain.
I wonder what they will do next?
Update 12/04/05
I now hear they are putting plastic "astro turf" around the fountain,
and also a fence, apparently the council is thinking of objecting to the
fence (not that it will look nice) and the "remedial works" are costing
£150,000 . for that money you could have built a proper fountain
Update 19/09/05
just had an email response
Jack Ward writes:
In
regards to your page on the Diana Fountain, did you forget this fountain
is a Memorial? Rip it out! No thanks
To that I say
Yes agreed, it is a memorial, but an expensive one
that is nothing but dangerous and waste of money, as i have said, why not
build a proper fountain? Say some one who visits it does not know who lady
Diana was, how will they know who its a memorial to, there is not even a
statue of Diana there.
Just because you get something for free, does not
mean that you have to like it
Would anyone else like to comment, either way ?
Sorry Mr Ward, looks like you are on your own with
that one
March 2006
Remember the leaves that were blocking the fountain,
and we mentioned they get fished out out the fountain, well, even more
money has been spent on screens that were made in America, and
shipped over to here, even more money. (don't believe me? see the
manufacturers website then
click me
Since i added this, we have had an email in from
Robert K Weir, the owner of the company who supplied the screens
Martin,
Thanks for the plug on your web site, you would be surprised to know
that I get quite a few hits that come in through your site. I take no
sides at all, just fix things that were not engineered to work under
the existing conditions. If you look on the positive side the screens
will pay for themselves in short order. The XXXXXXX I received
for the screens was probably the cheapest part of the whole project.
The maintenance requirements were changed from hourly to monthly. I
don't know what they pay per hour for maintenance in England, but you
can do the math and see how rapidly they will pay for themselves.
Cheers
Robert K. Weir P.E.
Hydroscreen CO. LLC
Hydro screen's website
(I should be on commission)
I am happier that the fountain will now work with leaves, (Mr Weir,
also told us how the screens work) but it goes to show how badly thought
out the fountain design is. (Nothing to do with Mr Weir and his company, infact
I think we owe a big thank you to Mr Weir and his screens)
Update, March 2007
Latest is the leaves and grass are now staining the granite. what do
you expect from a fountain that is made from granite and at ground level?
But i still say It all goes to show as I said. What a waste of
money this fountain is and will continue to be. Rip it out and build a
proper fountain before this one takes a life.
I am not a fountain designer, but I suggest a
large round pool with a single but yet powerful jet in the centre.
It symbolises, Dianna, all on her own
It must be cheaper than the drainage system they
call art now, and what did that certain designer do for her money?, talk
to a few people and that was it. Marvellous, never an apology for the Gaff
she made with the fountain, no just take the money and run.
Update, March 2007
Recent testing of the water quality has shown that
it has harmful bacteria, around 100 times more than is "recommended" The
cause of this harmful bacteria? dogs having a "poo" in the water. now if it
were a proper fountain that would never happen.
As someone said "Poor Diana, she was sh*t on in life
now she is sh*t on in death"
Please also note, this is not really a fountain, its
a water feature, why not take it out and build a proper fountain?
Update, January 2008
Apparently the fountain has a leak, and it is
starting to subside in some places, although the parks department are
denying this. It has also been suggested that it be ripped out and a
proper fountain installed...........er, hang on didn't I say that over 3
1/2 years ago?
You may also like to read
this article and
this article
Fountain / water feature
You may have noticed that I have mentioned that the
fountain is a water feature, not a fountain, how come?
Well in short, a fountain is where water (usually)
shoots up into the air, not running over anything to return from where it
started.
The
Cambridge dictionary defines fountain as
"a stream of
water that is forced up into the air through a small hole, especially for
decorative effect, or the structure in a lake or pool from which this
flows"
Where as a water feature is something
where the water returns to where it started by running down a surface and
or filling something as it goes.
Now tell me its still a fountain, you
can't.
Don't forget you can send me your views, Contact
me
Regards
Martin
* some fountains such as "plaza" fountains are designed to be played
in, this one isn't
I am not the only one who thinks its not a good fountain, you may also
want to read
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Not that any one reads the sign, if they did they
would let dogs in the "fountain" The
notice says (in relation to dogs) Dog Owners
"Feel free to enjoy the green spaces around the fountain, but
please keep your dog out of the water course"
Update February 2009
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